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Old 05-01-2012, 10:50 PM
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Hi Mike,

Thanks. That's comforting. Trying to look out for my customers.
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Old 05-02-2012, 07:24 AM
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Default Earning data feed access

Hello,

I understand your concerns and comments however, I am confident that we have the best data in the industry for the largest number of products. It is very costly to maintain the level of data that we offer. We have been offering our data for free to everyone for many years and as a business we have determined that our data is very valuable. We are not the only wholesale distributor that is charging for data. Other distributors offer much less data for a cost whether it be by charging for the data or a sales requirement. We monitored the use of our data in the last nine months and found that thousands of successful businesses used our data to establish and maintain their businesses and yet have never purchased from Sex Toy Club. On the flip side, we found valuable customers using our data that purchase from Sex Toy Club. As a result we established the criteria to earn free access to either Gold or Silver.

There is some confusion on this thread regarding the ability to earn free Silver or Gold Access. To determine the level of any account that was previously using the Gold Access we reviewed each account's total purchases from October 1, 2011 - March 31, 2012 and averaged that out over six months. We used that time frame as it included Christmas and Valentine's Day the two highest sales periods for the adult industry, we did not want to penalize accounts for low sales months. For example if an account purchased $6100.00 in those six months we gave them the Gold Access Six Month Usage for Free if they purchased $3300.00 in those six months we gave them Silver Access Six Month Usage for Free.

In an earlier post Mike stated, "that $500 in sales for any one month will get you Free access to Silver for 6 months and $1000 in sales for any one month will get your free access to Gold for 6 months." This is not true we are looking at average sales not one month of sales.

The purpose of charging for our more robust feeds is not personal. We do not want to negatively impact your businesses nor make it difficult to go into business. We still offer the Bronze Access for Free to EVERY Sex Toy Club member. We want to work with you to make your business a success. We pride ourselves in offering exceptional customer service, the largest variety of products and the best product data available plus more. Please don't hesitate to contact us to discuss any issue or concerns you may have.

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Old 05-02-2012, 07:47 PM
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Hopefully, we have many members that are pulling in $500.00 or more!
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Old 05-03-2012, 04:50 AM
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Hey Dan whats does this mean?
There were rumors of this over a years ago ... and the rumors were of course worse then what they have decided on ... they were 'Buy from STC or no feed' ... I thought that would hurt STC drop shippers and discourage future drop shippers from coming to / using STC at all and push every one over to the affiliate program ...

At that time I said there should be an option to 'buy' the feed or get it for free if you purchase $____ through STC.

So it really didn't mean anything ... it was just a comment on an old rumor finally coming true.

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Old 05-06-2012, 07:26 AM
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Default Feeds ... Format ...

Seems to me that the Gold version still needs tweaking to make the most of it ...

1)
While it is great to have related products ... there should also be a field that shows the item code of the same item from a different vendor
Example:
<Product_Number>CNVELD-DJ1050-17</Product_Number>
<MC_Product_Number>DJ1050-17</MC_Product_Number>

This has many uses, but the first that comes to mind is adding a second vendor to your store without adding thousands of duplicate products.

2)
Why do you continue to cram the materials and features into a single field
<Material><![CDATA[Nylon,Plastic,Realistic UR3,PVC]]></Material>
<Feature><![CDATA[Multi-Speed,Phthalate Free,Made in USA,Lock System Compatible,Lube Included,With Controller,Latex Free]]></Feature>

While this makes sense on the surface it just does not in Zen Cart ...
Take for example ... Multi-Speed,Phthalate Free,Made in USA,Lock System Compatible,Lube Included,With Controller,Latex Free ... that is 8 items ... which used individually have 40320 different combinations ... yet that example has only 1 use you have to create a new one if you want to add / delete / do anything to it ...

Example:
Batteries included
Adjustable
batteries included, adjustable
it took 3 different 'features' to get those three versions and should I want to add my own 'made in USA' I will have to search through hundreds of 'features' to see if it already exists (batteries included, adjustable, Made in USA) and then if it doesn't then I create it ...

seems silly to me ... each 'Feature' / 'Material' / 'Porn Star' / etc. should have their own field in the feed
<Materials>
<Material><![CDATA[Nylon]]></Material>
<Material><![CDATA[Plastic]]></Material>
<Material><![CDATA[Realistic UR3]]></Material>
<Material><![CDATA[PVC]]></Material>
</Materials>
or
<Material_1><![CDATA[Nylon]]></Material>
<Material_2><![CDATA[Plastic]]></Material>
<Material_3><![CDATA[Realistic UR3]]></Material>
<Material_4><![CDATA[PVC]]></Material>
depending on the way you choose to format

3)
Also at the Gold level it seems that it would be nice to pass on the actual stock level not just in/out of stock
<Stock_Info><![CDATA[In Stock]]></Stock_Info>
<Stock_Quantity>33</Stock_Quantity>

Just some thoughts that would make the Gold really Golden, not that any of the things I stated couldn't be done with scripts / manually ... but when you offer a premium product, all the work should be done already ... at least in my mind.

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Old 05-06-2012, 09:22 AM
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Seems to me that the Gold version still needs tweaking to make the most of it ...
Hello Dan,

Very curious, how did you get a Gold feed when you only have access to the Bronze level?

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Originally Posted by Dan O View Post
1)
While it is great to have related products ... there should also be a field that shows the item code of the same item from a different vendor
Example:
<Product_Number>CNVELD-DJ1050-17</Product_Number>
<MC_Product_Number>DJ1050-17</MC_Product_Number>

This has many uses, but the first that comes to mind is adding a second vendor to your store without adding thousands of duplicate products.
Related products is based on the vendor being used. If you are only using the MC or ELD vendor, then the related products will be from that vendor. However if you are using the ALL feed with multiple vendors then all related products are listed.

That is completely different from having a column with the exact same product from a different vendor. Which might be a feature you want or some others, it is not a general requirement for most. Because of the additional cost of multiple drop ship fees and multiple shipping fees using different vendors in an single order. The best alternative to having one web site with multiple vendors is to have multiple web sites each supporting a different vendor. This avoids having an order with multiple vendors and multiple shipping fees.

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2)
Why do you continue to cram the materials and features into a single field
<Material><![CDATA[Nylon,Plastic,Realistic UR3,PVC]]></Material>
<Feature><![CDATA[Multi-Speed,Phthalate Free,Made in USA,Lock System Compatible,Lube Included,With Controller,Latex Free]]></Feature>

While this makes sense on the surface it just does not in Zen Cart ...
Take for example ... Multi-Speed,Phthalate Free,Made in USA,Lock System Compatible,Lube Included,With Controller,Latex Free ... that is 8 items ... which used individually have 40320 different combinations ... yet that example has only 1 use you have to create a new one if you want to add / delete / do anything to it ...

Example:
Batteries included
Adjustable
batteries included, adjustable
it took 3 different 'features' to get those three versions and should I want to add my own 'made in USA' I will have to search through hundreds of 'features' to see if it already exists (batteries included, adjustable, Made in USA) and then if it doesn't then I create it ...

seems silly to me ... each 'Feature' / 'Material' / 'Porn Star' / etc. should have their own field in the feed
<Materials>
<Material><![CDATA[Nylon]]></Material>
<Material><![CDATA[Plastic]]></Material>
<Material><![CDATA[Realistic UR3]]></Material>
<Material><![CDATA[PVC]]></Material>
</Materials>
or
<Material_1><![CDATA[Nylon]]></Material>
<Material_2><![CDATA[Plastic]]></Material>
<Material_3><![CDATA[Realistic UR3]]></Material>
<Material_4><![CDATA[PVC]]></Material>
depending on the way you choose to format
It would be impossible to customize data feeds for all the shopping carts scripts available in the world.

While you may use Zen cart and this seems like a hassle to you. Others use different shopping carts and do not need what you need. We can not take into account all possible requirements / features that all the available shopping carts may have. The simplest and best way to add attributes with multiple results is the way we are doing it. As you stated later in your post, a script on your end will accomplish what you need for your situation. Just like someone else may need a completely different script to handle their shopping cart situation.


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3)
Also at the Gold level it seems that it would be nice to pass on the actual stock level not just in/out of stock
<Stock_Info><![CDATA[In Stock]]></Stock_Info>
<Stock_Quantity>33</Stock_Quantity>
We see what you want, however since the feeds are created every 8 hours this is not a viable request. Your stock quantity could be 8 hours old and this information changes rapidly.

We want to provide the information too, that is why we are working on having this information in our Order API, one day you'll be able to query the Order API for a product number and get the live stock level at that exact moment.

Much better then having an 8 hour old feed with outdated information.

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Just some thoughts that would make the Gold really Golden, not that any of the things I stated couldn't be done with scripts / manually ... but when you offer a premium product, all the work should be done already ... at least in my mind.

Dan
Thanks for the post, but as you can see. We must support for the general audience, not one particular purpose. That should be handled by your programmer / web developer.
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Old 05-06-2012, 11:40 AM
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Hello Dan,

Very curious, how did you get a Gold feed when you only have access to the Bronze level?
right here: https://secure2.sextoyclub.com/page/...l-samples.html ...

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While you may use Zen cart and this seems like a hassle to you. Others use different shopping carts and do not need what you need.
You are right there are many different carts out there, but most that I looked at do not have a function built in to change "Nylon,Plastic,Realistic UR3,PVC" into 4 separate attributes to the product ... they all would look at it as one field in csv format (surrounded by quotes) or xml (as cdata)

The order API checking stock is a good idea.

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Old 05-06-2012, 02:01 PM
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It would be impossible to customize data feeds for all the shopping carts scripts available in the world.

While you may use Zen cart and this seems like a hassle to you. Others use different shopping carts and do not need what you need. We can not take into account all possible requirements / features that all the available shopping carts may have. The simplest and best way to add attributes with multiple results is the way we are doing it. As you stated later in your post, a script on your end will accomplish what you need for your situation. Just like someone else may need a completely different script to handle their shopping cart situation..
Hey Mike do you have a list of shopping carts that you suggest work well with the new feeds?

Thanks,
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Old 05-06-2012, 05:08 PM
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You are right there are many different carts out there, but most that I looked at do not have a function built in to change "Nylon,Plastic,Realistic UR3,PVC" into 4 separate attributes to the product ... they all would look at it as one field in csv format (surrounded by quotes) or xml (as cdata)

The order API checking stock is a good idea.

Dan
"Nylon,Plastic,Realistic UR3,PVC" is not 4 separate attributes, it is the 4 materials used to create the product. They are all Materials, so they would all be listed under that heading. I don't understand why would you want to separate them in the first place?
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Old 05-06-2012, 05:18 PM
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Hey Mike do you have a list of shopping carts that you suggest work well with the new feeds?

Thanks,
Ken
Hello Ken,

I don't know any shopping cart that would take just any CSV or XML feed and not have it's own particular order it wants the data in. Each is different in it's own way.

This would require you either manually move our data feed columns around to fit the shopping cart requirement or having a programmer entering the information from our feeds through a script and directly putting that data into the shopping cart. Of course the preferred method is having a script do it for you automatically. It would be very hard to do something like this manually as often as needed.
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